Monday, February 8, 2016

Was Jesus a Pantheist ?


Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God (or divinity) are identical.

Did Jesus ever say that he was God, and did he ever say that God was everything ? Did he ever say All of Nature = God. As Spinoza did ?

It is recorded that Jesus said "I and the Father are One" John 10:30 and in John 17:21 .... that all of them may be One, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you."

Those gathered there that Hanukkah understood him as affirming his equality with God, for they took up stones to punish him for blasphemy John 10:31, John 10:33, and they said to him that they understood him as affirming that he was God, John 10:33. From the Aramaic...  They were saying to him, “It is not for excellent works that we are stoning you, but because you blaspheme, and as you are a man, you make yourself God.”

Then we read in the earlier Gospel of Yehuda Thoma (Saying 77), Jesus said, "I am the Light that is over all things. I am ALL : from me All came forth, and to me all attained.
Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there." - Logia 77

So if he says he is God, then says that he is also Everything, that is like saying : The Universe and God are Identical. There is only God and Nothing else.... Like saying "there is Nothing Other than God" or Ein od Milvado.......

In the Christmas story why is Jesus born in Beth-leHem ? Because everything about Jesus is a symbol and a metaphor. Everything is a Parable . ... Is he the Bread of Life ?  

אני לחם חיים

LeHem leHaim ? He was born in Bet-leHem (House of Bread) after all .... בית לחם 

Everything is a play on Words... Jesus is the Word. The Bread of Life. Bread is Life. Everything is One.... there is Nothing else.

6 comments:

  1. Perhaps he considered that there is no such thing as self and merely spoke for the Universe [the Father] on the Universe's behalf. I and the Universe can be one if I do not exist as a separate entity.

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  2. Sorry you have misunderstood Jesus he tells you clearly in the Lords Prayer it begins Our Father referring to everything and we all must worship only the Creator of the universe. He then tells everyone about the Holy Trinity I am not going to explain that because he said that this knowledge is only for his true followers.

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    1. I think you misunderstood Jesus's teachings.

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    2. If you owned a box company, would that make you a box? Even with the birth of your Child, they may look like you, but you are not them, AND they are not you! Humans are reproducers not creators. Now, as it relates to Almighty God, it's hard to miss that first, there is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Matthew 3:17. AND in Genesis 1, you see what God has created. Notice this distinction is clear, no pantheism!

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  3. Literally, metaphorically and ongoing. When we come to realize it is All real, that is when the wonderment and beauty begins.

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